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foxtel.com.au no longer working

I have just noticed that the foxtel.com.au site ini no longer works. Below I have pasted the 1st 148 lines of the log file. Can anyone help?

[        ]
[        ]              WebGrab+Plus/w MDB & REX Postprocess -- version  V2.0              
[        ]
[        ]                                 Jan van Straaten                                
[        ]                              Francis De Paemeleere                              
[        ]
[        ]             thanks to Paul Weterings and all the contributing users             
[        ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[        ]
[        ] Job started at 14/06/2017 16:03:07
[  Debug ]
[  Debug ] Running  on: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
[  Debug ] Environment: 4.0.30319.42000
[  Debug ]
[  Debug ] Loading timezone data
[  Debug ] Embedded timezones source: WGconsole.WG.Common.timezonesdata.txt
[  Debug ] Reading config file: C:\Users\SkyAdmin\AppData\Local\WebGrab+Plus\WebGrab++.config.xml
[  Info  ] found: C:\Users\SkyAdmin\AppData\Local\WebGrab+Plus\siteini.pack\Australia\foxtel.com.au.ini -- Revision 05
[  Debug ] xmltv input file - E:\ServerFolders\Documents\WebGrab\guide.xml - found
[  Debug ] 0 superfluous shows removed
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=TVH!TS) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=UKTV) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Arena) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=The Lifestyle Channel) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX8) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=111 funny) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Universal) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX Classics) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=showcase) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=BoxSets) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Binge) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=BBC First) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=13TH STREET) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FX) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=The Comedy Channel) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=A&E) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Syfy) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=MTV) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=E! Entertainment) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Style) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Lifestyle FOOD) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Lifestyle Home) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Lifestyle YOU) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=TLC) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Arts) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Aurora) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=TVSN) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=EXPO) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=ACC) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Hillsong TV) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Daystar) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=SonLife) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Foxtel Movies More) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Premiere) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Masterpiece) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Disney Movies) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Family) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Action) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Comedy) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Romance) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Thriller) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=WORLD MOVIES) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Fox Sports News) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX SPORTS 501) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX LEAGUE) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX SPORTS 503) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Fox Footy) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX SPORTS 505) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX SPORTS 506) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX SPORTS MORE) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=ESPN) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=ESPN2) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Eurosport) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Eurosportnews) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=beIN SPORTS 1) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=beIN SPORTS 2) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=beIN SPORTS 3) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Chelsea TV) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=LFCTV) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=MUTV) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=SKY Racing) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=SKY Racing 2) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=SKY Tbred Cent) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=RACING.COM) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=SKY News Live) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=SKY News Business) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=SKY Weather) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=FOX News) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=CNN) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Discovery Channel) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=National Geographic) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=The History Channel) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=BBC Knowledge) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Crime) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Animal Planet) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Nat Geo Wild) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Nat Geo People) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Discovery Turbo) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Discovery Science) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=CNBC) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=A-PAC) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=BBC World News) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Bloomberg Television) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Al Jazeera) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=CGTN) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=CGTN-Documentary) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=NHK World) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Russia Today) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Nickelodeon) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Nick Jr.) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Cbeebies) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Disney Channel) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Disney XD) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Disney Junior) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Cartoon Network) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Boomerang) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Discovery Kids) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=[V] HITS) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=MTV Music) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=MTV Dance) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=MAX) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Foxtel Smooth) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=CMC) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=Antenna Pacific) in the config file
[Error   ] Could find existing channel (xmltv_id=RAI ITALIA) in the config file
[  Info  ]
[  Info  ]
[  Info  ]       i=index  .=same  c=change  g=gab  r=replace  n=new
[  Info  ]
[  Info  ]
[  Info  ] Group (0) :
[  Info  ] update requested for - 105 - out of - 105 - channels for 14 day(s)
[  Debug ]
[  Info  ] (   1/105 ) FOXTEL.COM.AU -- chan. (xmltv_id=TVH!TS) -- mode Force
[Warning ] error downloading page: The underlying connection was closed: An unexpected error occurred on a send.
[Warning ] pausing 1 of 4 times for 5 seconds before re-try.
[Warning ] error downloading page: The underlying connection was closed: An unexpected error occurred on a send.
[Warning ] pausing 2 of 4 times for 10 seconds before re-try.
[Warning ] error downloading page: The underlying connection was closed: An unexpected error occurred on a send.
[Warning ] pausing 3 of 4 times for 15 seconds before re-try.
[Warning ] error downloading page: The underlying connection was closed: An unexpected error occurred on a send.
[Warning ] pausing 4 of 4 times for 20 seconds before re-try.
[Error   ] Unable to update channel TVH!TS
[Critical] Generic syntax exception:
[Critical]    message:
[Error   ] no index page data received from TVH!TS
[Error   ] unable to update channel, try again later
[  Info  ] Existing guide data restored!

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this is  a webgrab problem.this seems to be occuring more and more lately as sites change/update their https encryption.

it used to be linux and mono had problems with this but mono seems to have solved this issue since version 5.0.1.

just tried this site and it work fine on linux,there's a post from last week or so about this.

there nothing that can be currently done other than using linux or maybe you can use mono for windows and run webgrab the same way linux users do. havnt looked into it or tried it but i do know mono has windows installers available.

i know it seems like a backwards thing to try seeing webgrab is a windows exe to begin with.

 

 

 

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Thanks for that info although frankly I don't even know what mono is. I'll do a bit of research and see how I go but I'm not feeling all that confident.

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just to let you know i did install mono on windows and its does work for non https sites but i'm having issues with https.

it seems to be a ssl certificate problem(i think).i did download them so i'm not sure whats going on.

thats all i can really tell you for now and its about all i know.

 

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Thanks for that. Looks like you may have saved me some time. Anyway, I'm going to have to look at what alternatives are available now or just give up. It gets a bit annoying having to spend so much time fixing this stuff all the time.

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Yes having the same problem here with Foxtel data no longer being downloaded due to "The underlying connection was closed:..." error for each channel. My current config:

  • Windows 7 32bit
  • Latest none beta WebGrab+Plus V2.0 (13/02/2017)
  • Latest foxtel.com.au.ini (Revision 6 - [23/05/2017])

I was running WebGrab+Plus v1.1.1 when this started to happen earlier this week so I thought upgrading to latest v2.0 & latest foxtel.com.au.ini might solve the problem (which I did yesterday) but unfortunately it hasn't.

QUESTION:
Blackbear199 are you 100% sure it's a WebGrab problem and can only be fixed by a new release?

RE SSL Problem:
You also said "it seems to be an SSL certificate problem" so I was thinking perhaps my Trusted Certifcate List (TCL) is out of date (since I have Windows updates turned off on this particular PC since I don't want any updates to break my MediaCentre) so perhaps updating my TCL may fix this problem though I'm not sure how to do this without turning Windows Updates on (which I don't really want to do) OR perhaps TCL is updated regardless Windows Update settings. I have just read that from Vista and latter Windows versions IE autoupdates TCL in the background when you browse to websites that don't have a recognised Root certificate. FYI These type of Events are logged in Event Viewer in Windows Logs\Application with a Source of CAPI2.
I'll check my eventlog when I get home and report back here.
UPDATE: I used IE to view https://www.foxtel.com.au/tv-guide/grid and checked the certificate path (clicked the lock icon in IE) and all 3 certificates in the path showed OK so it looks like this is not a problem due to the TCL.

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well looking more i'm now thinkiing its a site problem.

visit directv.com with your browser and look at your url address box where it should show its a secure connection.

mine shows..

Info Info or Not secure

when it should be...

Lock Secure

but if you look at the address its shows its https so something isnt right.

now try visiting some other https site and youll see its shows it correctly.

also i tried it on a windows 10 machine with all the latest updates and same thing.

 

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Whatever the issue, I've now moved over to yourtv.com.au which seems to be pretty good and I notice it no longer needs cookies. That will do me for now.

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philzgr8 wrote:

Whatever the issue, I've now moved over to yourtv.com.au which seems to be pretty good and I notice it no longer needs cookies. That will do me for now.

have you got all the foxtel channels the xml channel list hasnt many of the channels in there

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do you think the foxtel issue is fixable or is it done for

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to work with webgrab directly..thats a quest for Jan/Francis(i have asked jan to look at this issue already and no answer yet.its not tghe 1st time i seen this).

can it be modified to work with windows via xampp or wahtever it is..sure.

 

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I certainly have everything I had from Foxtel.com.au 

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philzgr8 wrote:

I certainly have everything I had from Foxtel.com.au 

where did you get your channel list

 

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I ran we grab with the channel creation stuff uncommented. 

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not sure about that

i used the Sydney xml channel list it seemed to download & create the xml file ok but seems to be about an hr out timewise

also i imported into media centre with big screen epg & it deleted most of my fox channels

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Did you change the Timezone. I found it was set gmt +8 instead of +10. It worked when I edited it. 

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did you change that in the top few lines of the ini file

 

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ok so i changed the timezone & it seems ok

Cheers Glenn

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Guys I'm located in Melbourne and last night (actually finished at 2am this morn) switched from foxtel to the yourtv.com.au website for my epg data due to the “The underlying connection was closed:..." error.
Thanks philzgr8 for your suggestion to switch to yourtv.com.au yes.
Note: I had to reset my Media Center EPG database as I was experiencing hangs with a resultant "Restart" message in Media Center when I was trying to link the new epg listings to my channels however hopefully this problem is specific to me due to different epg sources, changes and hardware capture card upgrades I've done over the last few years so haven't included those notes. Just mentioning in case it happens to anyone else so you know what to do. Below are some notes I made that you may find helpful.

IN IE:
Went to https://www.yourtv.com.au/guide/ and clicked location pin & selected Melbourne region then located their cookie, renamed to yourtv.com.au_cookies.txt and copied to into the same directory as the .ini (for steps see yourtv.com.au_readme.txt).
Note: philzgr8’s post on 2017-6-15 here said you no longer require the cookie but I did it anyway.

IN WEBGRAB
Configured to download my Foxtel channels from yourtv (for steps see yourtv.com.au.ini & yourtv.com.au_readme.txt files).
If Melbourne or Sydney remember to change timezone from UTC+08:00 to timezone=UTC+10:00 in the WebGrab++.config.xml file.

Notes:

  • I generated my own channel file for Foxtel Melbourne using instructions in the files mentioned above however I found the resultant channel list didn’t have a couple of channels (such as Lifestyle Channel) so I just copied missing channels from yourtv.com.au.sidney.channels.xml (found in siteini.pack folder ) and replaced Sydney with Melbourne before pasting into WebGrab++.config.xml file. On hindsight I could’ve just used the channels in yourtv.com.au.sidney.channels.xml file and done a find/replace Sydney->Melbourne as other than that the channel info is the same for both cities.
  • In Media Center I had to edit numerous channels to link new guide data to the correct channel.

CLEANUP:
Once you are happy your data is downloading correctly you may like to change these parameters in the WebGrab++.config.xml file:

  <logging>off</logging> (turns logging off)
  <timespan>6</timespan> (default is 0 (=1 day of data), I use 6 which gives 7 days since that’s the max yourtv has)
  <update>i</update> (default is f. I use i for incremental so only changes are downloaded)

Then setup Task Scheduler (see here for details) to run WebGrab followed by whatever program you use to push new EPG data into your PVR.
(My PVR is MS Media Center so I use a program called Big Screen EPG available here).

Hope you find that helpful.
A big thanks to WebGrab developers, I will be donating for the third time as a thank you for continued development and urge others do the same as these guys have done a great job and we'd be stuck without them.
Regards Nigel

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I agree

the whole media centre setup is pretty redundant without the EPG

Big thanks to these guys as well

not really comfortable with the code jargon but i work throught it with some help from this forum

i thought i wold try Yourtv as well after reading philzgr8 post as well

i didnt set up the cookie file but it worked anyway

anyway fingers crossed

Cheers Glenn

 

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Cheers Guys. Glad most of us seem to have something workable. Hey Glenn, as far as losing your fox channels after importing with BSEPG, I'm not sure if you're aware that the callsign that BSEPG uses to channel match can vary between websites. This is true when you compare foxtel.com.au to yourtv.com.au. Sadly, that means that you need to delete your source in BSEPG and then go through the process of re-adding and channel matching when you switch from one to another. It's pretty painful but I've always had that issue. Last time I rebuilt Media Centre I tried as hard as I could to get callsigns across the Hauppauge MCE solution, Webgrab and BSEPG identical but it was a big job and ultimately I'm now back where I started unless I want to do it all again. Very frustrating!

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philzgr8 wrote:

Cheers Guys. Glad most of us seem to have something workable. Hey Glenn, as far as losing your fox channels after importing with BSEPG, I'm not sure if you're aware that the callsign that BSEPG uses to channel match can vary between websites. This is true when you compare foxtel.com.au to yourtv.com.au. Sadly, that means that you need to delete your source in BSEPG and then go through the process of re-adding and channel matching when you switch from one to another. It's pretty painful but I've always had that issue. Last time I rebuilt Media Centre I tried as hard as I could to get callsigns across the Hauppauge MCE solution, Webgrab and BSEPG identical but it was a big job and ultimately I'm now back where I started unless I want to do it all again. Very frustrating!

Cheers as well to you guys

Not really understanding what you mean about the BSEPG callsign but you are right very frustrating

What did you mean about Hauppage mce solution?

not sure how many people from Aust use Webgrab?

i have only seen a few names on the site from OZ

i came across it while looking for a replacement epg after the aust media centre site went down

Glenn

 

 

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RE Callsign:
Its an XML variable used in the guide.xml file (generated by WebGrab) and in your capture card's channel configuration XML file in Media Center.
I use a Hauppage HD PVR v1 box (see here) to capture my Foxtel box video input and its Media Center channel configuration XML file is located here:
C:\program data\Hauppauge\MediaCenterService\{xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}.XML
{xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}. above is going to be a random series of characters on your pc (technically a GUID)

If you ensure the "Callsign" variable assigned to the channel in both of these files matches then when you push the guide.xml data into Media Center the guide data listings should be automatically assigned to the correct channel in Media Center thereby saving you from having to use Media Center's "Edit Channel" menu to maunally assign each channel listing to each channel. If you would like details on all the variables used in the guide.xml file see the Microsoft doco here.

RE Hauppage mce solution:
He's referring to whatever hardware solution you're using to capture your Foxtel video as I explained above.

RE How many people from Aust use Webgrab:
I'm one and assume there would be quite a few Aussie's since the monopolistic & colluding TV companies in our country stopped Microsoft from automatically providing EPG data to Aussie Media Center users right from the start so we had to go straight to a 3rd party solution rather than being able to use the automatic solution buitin to Media Center. To add insult to injury they are now complaining to the government that they want more anti-monopoloistic legislation removed (so they can become even more monopolistic) citing Channel 10's financial woes as the reason when the actual reason is that the channel 10 executives continued to pay themselves huge salaries and bonuses even while profits were down leaving nothing in the bank... then like all big business in Australia run to the government aka Tax payer asking for bailouts and special concessions. Of course this happened in the US aswell with all the big banks during the so called "global financial crisis"... they all got bailed out by the tax payer whilst not ONE cent was paid back by over paid execs and wall street traders... if you haven't seen it already check out the movie "The Big Short"...oops I think I've gone off topic wink

 

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Works agian, with the help of a PHP file

Neede files are attached.

Do not forget to edit tje SiteIni file with the PHP server where the script can be found:  (here: http://192.168.178.30) to suit your setup.

 

Willy

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glennt wrote:

philzgr8 wrote:

Cheers Guys. Glad most of us seem to have something workable. Hey Glenn, as far as losing your fox channels after importing with BSEPG, I'm not sure if you're aware that the callsign that BSEPG uses to channel match can vary between websites. This is true when you compare foxtel.com.au to yourtv.com.au. Sadly, that means that you need to delete your source in BSEPG and then go through the process of re-adding and channel matching when you switch from one to another. It's pretty painful but I've always had that issue. Last time I rebuilt Media Centre I tried as hard as I could to get callsigns across the Hauppauge MCE solution, Webgrab and BSEPG identical but it was a big job and ultimately I'm now back where I started unless I want to do it all again. Very frustrating!

Cheers as well to you guys

Not really understanding what you mean about the BSEPG callsign but you are right very frustrating

What did you mean about Hauppage mce solution?

not sure how many people from Aust use Webgrab?

i have only seen a few names on the site from OZ

i came across it while looking for a replacement epg after the aust media centre site went down

Glenn

Hey Glenn,

Nigeltec's explaination pretty much covers the answers I would have given but basically, when you import the data into BSEPG, you should then use it's channel matching feature so that you don't need to manually edit the channels in Media Centre. It allows you to use the name of the channel in the webgrab data to match with the name of the channel in Media Centre. The channel name in Media Centre is configured in the channels configuration xml file as explained by Nigeltec. You can channel match without the names being the same by either editing the callsign in BSEPG to match the channel name in MCE or by inserting the channel number from MCE into BSEPG for each channel and then matching by channel number rather than cassign. In the end, it seems there is no easy solution.

I think you're right that there are only a handful of Aussie users although I can't be sure because you only really know of them if they post a question about an Aussie EPG. I came here like you when the Aussie Media Centre forum died. I must say though that I am slowly coming to the end of my tether with running Foxtel through Media Centre. Over the years it has required more maintenance than it's worth at times and the fact that it restricts me to a single tuner instance is frustrating too. That said, the limitations of going back to native Foxtel with its crap inteface and crap EPG are fairly sobering so I'll persist for a bit longer. Maybe one day Foxtel will come up with something that is worth the money people pay for it. Yeah right!

Cheers,

Phil

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nigeltec wrote:

RE Callsign:
Its an XML variable used in the guide.xml file (generated by WebGrab) and in your capture card's channel configuration XML file in Media Center.
I use a Hauppage HD PVR v1 box (see here) to capture my Foxtel box video input and its Media Center channel configuration XML file is located here:
C:\program data\Hauppauge\MediaCenterService\{xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}.XML
{xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}. above is going to be a random series of characters on your pc (technically a GUID)

If you ensure the "Callsign" variable assigned to the channel in both of these files matches then when you push the guide.xml data into Media Center the guide data listings should be automatically assigned to the correct channel in Media Center thereby saving you from having to use Media Center's "Edit Channel" menu to maunally assign each channel listing to each channel. If you would like details on all the variables used in the guide.xml file see the Microsoft doco here.

RE Hauppage mce solution:
He's referring to whatever hardware solution you're using to capture your Foxtel video as I explained above.

RE How many people from Aust use Webgrab:
I'm one and assume there would be quite a few Aussie's since the monopolistic & colluding TV companies in our country stopped Microsoft from automatically providing EPG data to Aussie Media Center users right from the start so we had to go straight to a 3rd party solution rather than being able to use the automatic solution buitin to Media Center. To add insult to injury they are now complaining to the government that they want more anti-monopoloistic legislation removed (so they can become even more monopolistic) citing Channel 10's financial woes as the reason when the actual reason is that the channel 10 executives continued to pay themselves huge salaries and bonuses even while profits were down leaving nothing in the bank... then like all big business in Australia run to the government aka Tax payer asking for bailouts and special concessions. Of course this happened in the US aswell with all the big banks during the so called "global financial crisis"... they all got bailed out by the tax payer whilst not ONE cent was paid back by over paid execs and wall street traders... if you haven't seen it already check out the movie "The Big Short"...oops I think I've gone off topic

Hey Nigel,

Thanks for stepping in. I've been a bit busy the last few days. As it happens, I use the Hauppauge Colossus with the setup from TGB here.

For the record, I agree with your comments about our stupid TV media and I'll include Foxtel for the ridiculously useless hardware/software combo they provide to users for their service. I use IceTV for my free to air EPG as a matter of interest because the way they cleanse the data allows me to use the full power of the MCE interface when selecting programs to record. If only they would do the same for Foxtel I'd happily pay for it. Anyway, I will be forced onto NBN for my internet in the next year or so (I currently use Cable) and when that happens, I think there is a big chance I will kill off Foxtel in favour of a streaming service. At this point, AFL is just about my only reason for keeping Foxtel and it makes no sense to pay around $100 a month for just that.

 

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RE I use the Hauppauge Colossus with the setup from TGB here.
I wrote those instructions smiley .

RE Foxtel for the ridiculously useless hardware/software combo
Yes their UI is sooo unfriendly... there isn't even a skip button so you can skip thru adds like you can in MC... probably by design so you have to watch all the time wasting adds and cross promotions.

RE If only they would do the same for Foxtel
Most likely Foxtel won't allow them to use their epg data - same monopolistic practice they used against Microsoft to stop them providing guide data.
The lack of easily accessible guide data probably played a role in preventing MC getting a greater adoption rate.

RE Kill off Foxtel
Yes I only have it for Rugby Union. I hate how you can't buy JUST the Sport channels you want. Of course its all done on purpose to give the illusions you're getting a whole lot more for your money so they can justify the high price. Even if a found a streaming solution for Rugby (there are some none official ones already) I would still like to keep MC due to its great UI and the fact we can easily use the Xbox 360in the lounge as a MC extender... in fact that's all it's used for.

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probably all getting a bit off topic for this forum but no harm i guess

First of all thanks for the info it helps to understand some things

i agree with Nigeltek that WMC its UI is far superior to foxtel & it just works

I was attracted to media centre in the 1st place because you could have all your media & TV in one place & use one remote

given what it had to offer especially in the earlier times & probably should probably had a lot more mainstream users

probably a bit dated but i have two Hauppage 2205 cards & a Compro card for Foxtel input W7 32b (It all works ok)

i had DVRMSToolbox & showanalyser running for a while to skip ads in recorded Foxtel & i loved it given the ads where nearly five mins

couldnt get it to work next time but i was a over the whole setup at the time

anyway good feedback guys

Cheers Glenn

 

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I'm having some trouble with yourtv.com.au now but I won't post here. My post about the issue is here: http://www.webgrabplus.com/comment/10788#comment-10788

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