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Blackbear199
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I have had many pm's relating to things that are not a personal message,example ini requests.

i have since disabled pms because of this and of lately i have totally given up on ini's.

i did mingle in the iptv for a bit and found it pretty much useless(although it did work good at times).

i no longer use any service so longer have a need to keep ini updated.

i used to enjoy doing this but rampid webgrab abuse has forced me to not contribute in any way.

i realize this hurts all,the honest user and the ones who use it for other purposes.

unfortunately there is no way to tell the difference between the two so no more support from me.

someone always find a oppurtunity from someones idea of let it be free and i for one am not feeding them the sources to do so.

i should also mention that many choose to use the providers because the cannot be bothered to do the work themselves to obtain the data with webgrab.

let them post their ini's...

surely they wont mind loosing business.

i am considering some way of real help creating ini.i think everyone should know the basics of doing this.

once u have that the rest comes with experience and time.

this will do away with the above situation.

 

 

 

freddy12
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Everyone should be greatful for all the work you have put in over the time here creating ini's and all round support, ill speak for all the decent ones around here in thanking you 

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The setup made by the authors unfortunately didn't work. Git was the common oppurtunity "free and opensource" to have updated site.inis, create, collaborate for a growing community. Someone that was helped to learn, turned into his own private business, as well as others using and abusing the work done by this community for their money revenue without even contributing to the authors of this community.  I am not sure there is a solution to this problem. 

As you can see the entusiasm is gone, i have seen some posts where "I have this ini working, pm me" so why not post the ini ?  The answer is we all scared it gets abused and site will close access as gracenote did or create a very difficult access (tv2go docet)

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Please can the devs create an area on the forums purely for those who have contributed to the project?

At least then there will be somewhere that those with genuine interest can share learnings and ini's without them being abused by the laziest of people.

Webgrab as a community is dying, and without that webgrab will be no more :(

freddy12
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martinconroy wrote:

Please can the devs create an area on the forums purely for those who have contributed to the project?

At least then there will be somewhere that those with genuine interest can share learnings and ini's without them being abused by the laziest of people.

Webgrab as a community is dying, and without that webgrab will be no more :(

 

i agree and maybe the ones who contribute a certain amount,

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I'm not sure that we should judge based on ability to pay. Ironically the IPTV providers abusing the ini files and charging for data are more likely to be able to contribute a significant amount - certainly more than I can!

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martinconroy wrote:

I'm not sure that we should judge based on ability to pay. Ironically the IPTV providers abusing the ini files and charging for data are more likely to be able to contribute a significant amount - certainly more than I can!

 

But thats the problem, they dont . they just take take take then disappear unless there is a issue then they come back for a updated ini or fix 

martinconroy
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Yes, exactly, so let's not screw valid users because they can't afford much.

mat8861
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There are several problems for this argument. Besides the donator area, which may help, will still face the problem of users that subscribe with different nick so to request even with a donation site.ini for different countries. I think there is only one solution, encrypt the site.ini and have a yearly subscription, The server could do a statistic of the usage per encryption key. Anyway this is up to the Webgrab admin's.

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But those that are abusing the site are those with the most cash. I think it still needs to be accessible (financially) to the majority, but just put off the "casual opportunist".
Anyway, I've tried to contribute, and have donated, but given the lack of admin response to this or much recently I'm beginning to wonder why I bothered and am already expecting the worse :(

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martinconroy wrote:

But those that are abusing the site are those with the most cash. I think it still needs to be accessible (financially) to the majority, but just put off the "casual opportunist".
Anyway, I've tried to contribute, and have donated, but given the lack of admin response to this or much recently I'm beginning to wonder why I bothered and am already expecting the worse :(

 

Where is all this cash you mention?  You keep saying the people abusing the site are the ones with the most cash,  The only problem with your theory is they are not the ones who Donate,  They come on here request site ini once they get it they disappear without helping either make a Site ini or donate to the ones who do 

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Which is precisely my point. An area for donators would deter those who casually request and exploit people's goodwill. My point re the amount of donation is that if IPTV providers who abuse the site do chose to donate then they could afford more that the average user if those chose to. I'm simply saying that a "donations only area" would deter some of those people.
If people have a better idea that gets this site off it's knees I'm all for it. I'm only trying to help and offer suggestions.

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